My wife is due in the next 2-3 weeks to give birth to our 2nd baby - it's very exciting. If I had one wish it would be that she would hurry up. The reason why is that the passage below is where we are up to in our sermon series on Exodus and frankly I'd rather be on paternity leave and give this one to someone else!

On the way, at the place of where they spent the night, the LORD met him and tried to kill him. But Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin, and touched his feet with it, and said, "Truly you are a bridegroom of blood to me!" So he let him alone. It was then she said, "A bridegroom of blood by circumcision."

I thought I had carefully crafted this sermon series so that I would be off on paternity leave when this passage raised its ugly head. Come on Margaret, hurry up!! If ever there was a verse that I wished scribes through the centuries had edited out it would be this one!


The worship seminar went well on the weekend. As usual I totally overprepared. I'm haunted by the words of a trusted friend who suggested to me recently that I'm a perfectionist. He meant not in a good way but rather in a way that trusts in myself and my abilities rather than God and God's strength!

Anyway, enough self-flagellation! No blood was spilt on the carpet over the weekend. This is no mean feat when you have a room full of people who are very talented and passionate musicians and you are trying to ask questions about the content of some of their favourite songs! We all had a great time exploring what is worship and what are we trying to do on a Sunday morning? We had some very robust discussions at times where we let our differences grow us (I hope). I suggested that Sunday worship is less about creating a certain "experience" for people and more about spiritual formation of the people of God. Less about "getting something out of it" and more about growing a gospel people. Rather than making experience primary and trying to create some emotions we need to be faithful to the gospel (content) and allow that to produce it's own experiences. This will sometimes mean profound thankfulness and joy but other times lament or confession or wrestling with God. If we make experience (especially creating that warm fuzzy feeling) primary we run the risk of abusing the gospel for our own ends (i.e. creating an experience). We need to trust in the power of the gospel to grow a gospel people and allow this to create it's own experiences. My conclusion was that Sunday morning worship is about nurturing and growing a gospel people. Therefore, the content matters to make sure we are growing a gospel people and not just any sort of people.

A couple of fantastic and haunting quotes I really like in my research which both come from a journal article by Kevin Vanhoozer called "Worship at the Well" in the Trinity Journal 23 (2002):
"We worship what we know. If our knowledge is not deep, our worship won't be either."
"Our worship [and prayer] is the index to how well we have understood our faith."
And finally a quote from N.T. Wright (via Vanhoozer's article):
"If your idea of God...[and] salvation offered in Christ, is vague or remote, your idea of worship will be fuzzy and ill-informed."


"Let's face it. Christianity is a spectacular means to an end. We have a power structure that is open and accessible to people who have not earned or been granted much power from our culture. In local churches, there is money to be made, power to be had and opportunities to be seized. A man or woman who may not be successful in the business world can be chairman of the deacons, head of the parish committee or a member of the board of directors. For some, Christianity is only the means to an end, and whenever that happens, things turn ugly."

Real Live Preacher has written an outstanding article on an issues that every church faces and every Christian faces - the use and abuse of POWER! You can get to it via his website (which I'd recommend so that you can read the comments) or directly from this link.


At our church we have travelled through the gospel of Luke and are now looking at the book of Exodus. Prominent in both is the journey motif (Luke 9:52ff and the liberation of the Israelites from Egypt to the Promised Land). I read this today that captures beautifully something of the significance of journeying.

SEAN DIETRICH  

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Wow! I don't know who reads this blog (whether it's only 1 or 2 people or what). Today I had a comment left by Sean Dietrich who I've never heard of before. He's a Christian musician - songwriter who's been influenced by Keith Green and he seems like a really humble guy who loves Jesus. I'd encourage you to read his bio and listen to his music (free to download) - if his bio doesn't bring tears to your eyes then you've got a fridge for a heart!

ANOTHER QUIZ  

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I can't seem to avoid Barth. If you liked the last quiz then go and have a crack at this one. Unfortunately, some of the language is a bit archaic and gender exclusive!

You scored as Karl Barth. The daddy of 20th Century theology. You perceive liberal theology to be a disaster and so you insist that the revelation of Christ, not human experience, should be the starting point for all theology.

Karl Barth

87%

John Calvin

80%

Anselm

73%

Martin Luther

67%

J?Moltmann

53%

Paul Tillich

40%

Friedrich Schleiermacher

27%

Jonathan Edwards

20%

Charles Finney

20%

Augustine

20%

Which theologian are you?
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BARTHIAN!!  

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I wouldn't use it to define who I am, but it could be worse! But wasn't Barth quoted as saying I'm not a Barthian?!

You scored as Neo orthodox. You are neo-orthodox. You reject the human-centredness and scepticism of liberal theology, but neither do you go to the other extreme and make the Bible the central issue for faith. You believe that Christ is God's most important revelation to humanity, and the Trinity is hugely important in your theology. The Bible is also important because it points us to the revelation of Christ. You are influenced by Karl Barth and P T Forsyth.

Neo orthodox

82%

Evangelical Holiness/Wesleyan

79%

Emergent/Postmodern

57%

Reformed Evangelical

57%

Modern Liberal

32%

Fundamentalist

29%

Roman Catholic

25%

Charismatic/Pentecostal

18%

Classical Liberal

7%

What's your theological worldview?
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Go have a crack and see what you come up with.

Hat tip to Alister

STUDYING  

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I have been away over the last week in Auckland for a Ministry Development Course. I'm still up here until Saturday doing some study in preparation for the worship seminar. At MDC we spent time talking about ministry and especially about where our focus is at in our ministries (John 15 - are we focussed on abiding in Christ or solely getting fruit?). In this light we were given this outstanding quote "are we so busy reaching the 'churched' that we're unchurching the churched?" Well worth pondering when it comes to the depth of the gospel in our churches.


Paul has posted some reflections from his DMin (demon??) research on contemporary Christian music. It is very interesting.

GOD'S GIFTS  

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Andehe made the comment that so often our faith is one of being flipped upside down, changing and then integrating new dimensions. When I think of my own faith I'm very aware of how flighty it can be - the process of deconstructing and reconstructing can be very hard. However, I hope that this process is found my desire (through the Spirit) to be rooted in Christ - the truly faithful human who takes my flighty, rocky faith and presents it perfect before the Father. I was given this quote last week from a friend (I think it's from James Torrance): "Prayer and worship are not primarily hard tasks that God sets us; they are gifts that through his Son and in his Spirit he shares with us." I think ultimately this is also true of faith - it is God's gift to us that comes by the Spirit through his Son. Faith is about particiapting in the gift that God shares with us - life in Christ. In the Spirit our flighty, rocky faith is lifted up and presented as holy before the Father through the perfect eternal human faithfulness of Jesus Christ our mediator. Faith then isn't all about 'my faith' but the faithfulness of Jesus Christ.

Why are fire engines red?
A fire Engine has four wheels and eight people on it.
Four and eight are twelve.
Twelve inches are a foot.
A foot is a ruler.
Queen Elizabeth is a ruler.
The "Queen Elizabeth" is the largest ship
to sail the seven seas.
The seas have fish.
The fish have fins.
The Finns fought the Russians.
The Russains are red.
Fire engines are always rushin' around.
And that's why fire engines are red!

This seems to be the sort of logic that allows Dan Brown to make some of the connections he makes in the Da Vinci Code. As Conrad Gempf, New Testament lecturer at London School of Theology, said when asked to comment on The Da Vinci Code 'asking a New Testament lecturer to comment on The Da Vinci Code is like asking a Marine Biologist to comment on Finding Nemo!' However, the flimsiness of Dan Brown's research doesn't seem to stop its popularity and when the church points these things out it only adds fuel to the fire - 'of course you'd say that, you're in on this conspiracy!' Steve Hollinghurst asks what would happen if Dan Brown were to admit that The Da Vinci Code was a joke? Would convinced readers simply drop the book's theories? Or might they wonder what Brown was trying to hide or which organisation forced him to say that? How does the church engage with The Da Vinci Code? We need to be careful that we don't use a sledgehammer to tap in a carpet tack! I think rather than point out the flaws in The Da Vinci Code we need to understand the fertile soil that allows The Da Vinci Code to grow. Why is The Da Vinci Code so popular? Our culture today loves secret knowledge and scandals. It does not like authorities or authority figures e.g. Police, politicians, lawyers or churches. In a world of truthiness it all comes down to opinions and my opinion is the only one I can trust! People today trust their own feelings over against the views of authority figures. We mistrust all claims to truth as a will to power and search for 'the real truth' behind the supposed truth and it leads to all sorts of conspiracy theories and thristings for secret knowledge. The church shouldn't laugh too hard at Why Fire Engines are Red - this sort of thinking isn't limited to The Da Vinci Code. Many interpretations of the Bible resemble this sort of logic (or lack of), especially The Book of Revelation! Perhaps the popularity of Left Behind and The Bible Codes is linked to the popularity of The Da Vinci Code - access to secret knowledge and how no one else has seen this before. It's exciting and entertaining but often the logic is the same as Why Fire Engines are Red. But when people challenge it it only reinforces the scandal that the mainstream church is trying to suppress information or is purposely leading people down the wrong path! The Da Vinci Code has met fertile soil indeed!

There is a lot of talk today about the importance of journeying and I'm one of the people who talks a lot about journeying. However David Wells in Above All Earthly Pow'rs suggests that this contemporary theme of journeying resembles little of the biblical theme of journeying. Wells argues that that traditional Christian spirituality (especially on journeying) is one that flourishes within doctrinal parameters (realities of who God is and whoGod calls us to be), demanding that the self live within these parameters. By contrast, contemporary journeying begins with the self. It is rooted in human autonomy and the self is allowed to pick and mix and choose whatever rings its bells. The validation of sources it picks and mixes is whatever benefits the self psychologically and therapeutically. Mixing and matching, discarding and reappropriating ideas is what modern spirituality is all about. Wells quotes Zygmunt Bauman (who I've only read when quoted in other books) who suggests that people today are tourists rather than pilgrims. Now, I've read some who see this postitively! In a pick and mix world the Christian faith has many treasure to put out for spiritual tourists to sample in the hope that they may come to faith in Christ. I myself have tired to encourage and do this. But Wells heavily critiques this approach: 'Tourists are not rooted in the places they visit. They are just passing through, just looking. They are only there for their pleasure and entertainment. They are unrelated to their fellow travelers. They contribute nothing to the country they are visiting (except their cold cash) because they are only there to look and to take in a fresh set of experiences. Tourists never stay; they are always on the move. It is this image, rather than that of the pilgrim, that appears to describe most aptly this new, privatised, experimental spirituality.'

Wells then quotes this poem from Mark Greene called 'Tourists'
Tourists; that’s what we are becoming…
Tourists, we move through life, flitting from idea to idea, from novelty to novelty, from new person to new person,
Never settling, always moving…
Selecting the best sights, the highlights, the choice cuts, avoiding the mess on the edge of town, the slums, all the uncomfortable things, the struggle of really knowing people
Never settling, always moving lest we hear the hollow clang of our own emptiness…
Tourists, that’s what we are becoming…
Inquisitive, curious, picking up the tidbits of other people’s depth…
Tourists, flicking through our snapshots, the paper thin trophies of our click and run existence, filing them away, loading the next roll of film
Never settling, always moving,
Tourists; that’s what we are becoming,

Tourists; that's what we are becoming…

I've been chewing on this for the last week. There's a certain ouch factor as I find it hard to swallow and digest...

Living in Hurricanes territory is hard work for a Blues supporter. I have been trying to keep my mouth shut but I can't help it. A few weeks ago I predicted that the 'Canes had as much chance of winning the Super 14 as the Blues. Well, this has turned to custard and the 'Canes are in the final with the Crusaders this Saturday. It hurts to say it but:

GO THE CRUSADERS!!! PPPPLLLLEEEEAAAAASSSEEEE!!

I mentioned a quote from Friedrich Buechner a couple of weeks ago in a sermon (something like): 'questions and doubts are the ants in the pants of faith. They keep it alive and moving.'

I have two recent questions (as well as many others...) that are causing ants in my pants:
1). This one comes from Guy Sayles and his blog at First Day. We often focus on the question of "Do you believe in Jesus?" This is an important question and rests at the heart of the Christian faith. But sometimes we, wrongly, stop at that question, as if saying yes settles all matters of faith and discipleship. There is a second and also very important question to ponder after asking "Do you believe in Jesus?" and it is: "Do you believe what Jesus believed?" Go check out Guy Sayles thoughts on this one here. It's a very important question for followers of Jesus.

2). The second question follows the readings I've been doing for our forthcoming retreat for our worship team. There is a lot of focus on the need for worship to be authentic today. It's been something that I've focussed a lot on. Today I read an article that gave me a kick in the pants. The article is by Graham Redding who is the Minister at St John's in the City, a Presbyterian church in Wellington. In the article he asks "What is authentic worship? Authentic to whom?" Is it most important to be authentic to the people gathered to worship (in which case, who decides if the bar of authenticity has been reached?) or to the Triune God of grace revealed in Jesus Christ? Who is worship directed towards, the people gathered for worship or the Triune God of grace?

I've found out over the last few weeks that some of the people I went to Bible College with have entered blogdom. I'm not on-to-it enough to figure out how to create a links thingy at the side of the blog, so the best I can do is give them a plug.
Alister is a good guy and a smart chappie (not sure what he's up to in terms of job etc now). He's now blogging at Kiwi and an Emu
Sean Du Toit (N. T. Wright's biggest fan!). I see Sean's giving a lecture on the Da Vinci Code at Stellenbosch University. He blogs at Primal Subversion.
Melissa Powell is a pastor at Cession Community. She is a very clever woman, and I would imagine, an outstanding pastor! She's blogging at Pensees (as in Blaise Pascal).

We four did a lot of papers together at Uni and it's interesting to see what they're up to now.

There's something special about scoring a treasure you never expected like the lost and found passages of Luke 15. Well, this week I reckon I've found a treasure. This week I bought my first ever Christian music CD. Call me whatever you want but I find most Christian music CDs just too syrupy for me. I can't connect with the stuff they're singing about. Anyway, this week I went into our local Christian bookstore (something I don't often do for the same reason as the Christian CD issue - the books are a bit too syrupy for me) and bought a new Bible because mine had literally fallen apart and disintergrated (always a good look for a pasta!). While I was there I browsed through the CDs and the lady recommended a couple of bands to listen to after I told her of my dilemma with much Christian music. I listened to the ones she recommended to me through the store headphones and they didn't really ring my bells. When I put them back on the shelf I saw a CD by a band called The Normals. I thought "that's me, I'm pretty normal" I put the CD on the store CD player and just loved the music. Very U2 and Radioheadish. Not only were the tunes great but the lyrics were fantastic - they sung stuff that I connected with. Here's some of their lyrics:
Have you ever been scared? Everybody's been scared. I've been scared. God, I've been scared.
Have you ever felt pain? Everbody's felt pain. I've felt pain. God, I've felt pain.
Chorus
But I'm the King of the world today. I've got this whole dirty place wrapped around my finger and I think I'm finally on my way home.
Have you ever had doubt? Everybody's had doubt. I've had doubt. God, I've had doubt
But it will get better and it doesn't matter because I feel loved. Oh God, I feel loved.
Chorus
I'm the King of the world today. I've got this whole dirty place wrapped around my finger and I think I'm finally onmy way home.
This is where grace becomes my mother 'cause I can be one man today and tomorrow another...

Or another song called 'Innocence':
Innocence, you were taken so slowly. It hit us suddenly and now I can't leave my room 'cause the lights of the city are just hiding from the dark.
Innocence, we never got to say goodbye but the glory of redemption is the wisdom that we find has taken it's place...

Or 'Brittle Bone':
Down here the well has been poisened. Now everything's dying. Some sell forgiveness on Gospel TV shows and I wonder why anyone's buying? 'Cause the truth is a hard sell for it burns out the lies

Great stuff. I went to the band's website The Normals and found that they too didn't like too much modern Christian music. They found that record companies demanded that they have a high JPM (Jesus Per Minute) and sing about happy, sugary stuff instead of gritty life stuff so that they'd get good sales on the Christian consumer market. Another group called The Frantics tried to write some gritty lyrics. Annoyed at these issues in the Christian music industry they wrote these lyrics:
Everyone's already been bought and sold. Got to get ahead. To fill their luxurious homes. Where all their lies resound again and again”
At one point in the Nashville session, one of the label executives stopped the session, recalled Shandrow (the band leader). The executive said something wasn't clicking. He had Shandrow spend some time with a studio employee to make the song more Christian.
The Frantics then recorded it again. The executive, said Shandrow, exclaimed, "That's the God I serve! Yes!"
And Shandrow's thought on it: "That's the God they want to sell."

Go here to read the full story.

A couple of years ago Laurie Guy published a book called Worlds in Collision:The Gay Debate in New Zealand, 1960-1986 (with a lovely pink cover) which looked at the response of the NZ churches to the Homosexual Law Reform Bill. The book is a fascinating read and a wonderful contribution to NZ church history, the history of homosexual law reform in NZ and NZ social history during these turbulent years. I think the title of the book is a pearler and so I've used it for this blog post even though this post is nothing to do with homosexuality.

This week I've been reading from a book called The Prodigal Project and one particular story struck me as a perfect example of 'worlds in collision'. The world of church worship world in collision with the society its trying to reach. Mike Riddell, one of the authors of the book, wrote this story:
"A young girl lived with her family next door to a Baptist church. Her parents were not churchgoers, but they made use of the Sunday School to get their daughter out of the house on a Sunday morning. Each week she would attend Sunday School, and then stay on for the church service which followed. Family life was not pleasant, and she enjoyed the welcome relief of a different group of people who seemed much 'nicer'.
The church was charismatic, and on one particular Sunday, there was the usual long bracket of choruses at the beginning of the service. A very worshipful atmosphere developed as the congregation continued to sing songs over and over. Eventually, after a particularly moving chorus, a silence fell over the assembled people. It was one of those times in which worshippers are caught up in the presence of God, and hold their breath in expectation of some prophecy or exhortation from the Lord.
This time, however, the silence gave way not to any encouraging word, but to the sound of screaming from next door. There was the unmistakable noise of a woman being beaten; a succession of wailing and weeping interspersed with the thud of fist on flesh. The young girl, together with the rest of the congregation, listened in horror. She recognized the voice of her mother crying in anguish, and knew once more her father was erupting in violent anger. She waited in anticipation, to see what would happen.
The worship leader was tense. He had planned carefully the sequence of songs to lead to this very point, where people might 'break through' into the presence of God. And now instead, the whole atmosphere was being destroyed by this unwelcome intrusion of the outside world. He did the only thing he could think of; he led out in another song of praise. The congregation welcomed the opportunity to move on and drown out the ghastly sounds assaulting their ears. As they sang, the worship quickly shut out the noise from next door. The incident stayed with the young girl for the rest of her life, though she did not understand until much later why it made her so angry."

I'm still doing some reading for the forthcoming worship seminar for our church. I've just read an article by David Dockery on Southern Baptist worship and his cry for renewal in Southern Baptist worship. Whilst the Southern Baptists have their own definate characteristics I still found it very interesting. Dockery says this about worship: 'Worship is the foundational activity of the Christian church. It defines the life-giving functions of the people of the new convenant and the new age. Worship is a joyful experience for the believing community and is as necessary for spiritual life as air and food for physical well-being...Worship [in the New Testament community] was a vertical movement, that is, the praise of humanity to God. But there was also a horizontal movement because wprship is celebrated with others. Therefore worship was a community act, and the relationships between the members of the worshipping community were of the highest importance.' With the New Testament itself, Dockery identifies 3 groups from which the early church developed. The first group, identified as Jewish Christians, was characterised by a continutiy with temple worship (Acts 2:46; 3:11-26). The second group he refers to as Hellenistic Christians. The worship of this group is characterised by the renunciation of Jewish ritualism (Acts 6:1-7:50). Jewish rituals were reinterpreted as having been fulfilled in Christ (Heb. 7-10). The thrid and largest group by the end of the first century was comprised of gentile Christians. Gentile Christian worship was exhorted to be orderly (1 Cor. 14:40; 1 Tim. 3:15) since it had developed out of pagan origins. Worship became Christocentric and content orientated (1 Cor. 14:6-26) as preaching and the Lord's Supper characterised its major aspects. Also, worship became more organised and structured as the community developed.

There's some interesting things to consider here as the NT church changed and shaped its worship within different contexts.

The Princeton Theological Review has released its latest issue (Spring 2006) and it is dedicated to the work of the late Stanley Grenz (an outstanding Baptist theologian). One of the essays in it, 'Straddling the Tasman', is written by Brian Harris - one of my old lecturers and now Principal of the Baptist Theological College of Western Australia. In his essay Brian looks at how Grenz's theology can speak clearly and thoughtfully into the Australiasian context. It is well worth reading. I was particularly struck by Brian's comments on how differently the Chrismatic Renewal impacted the church in New Zealand to how it impacted the church in Australia.

STARBUCKS  

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This has a definate beauty to it. Hat tip to Maggi Dawn.

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